Releasing Trauma and the Dark Side of Modeling with Jules Horn
Your body is keeping a record of every emotion you have ever suppressed.
I just sat down with Jules Horn.
Jules is a former New York fashion model turned healer who specializes in fascia and nervous system regulation.
In this episode you’ll learn:
The 7.5-hour breathwork protocol to permanently reprogram your nervous system.
Why your fascia acts as a physical prison for past emotional trauma.
How to transition from validation-seeking to radical self-love and authenticity.
We dive into the details later in the conversation.
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Timestamps
00:00 Intro
06:35 The Journey from Mechanic to Model
12:57 The Struggles of Validation and Self-Worth
18:48 The Evolution of Diet and Health Choices
28:11 Spiritual Awakening and Personal Growth
34:03 The Journey of Dietary Choices
36:43 Detoxing the Body: A Path to Clarity
40:24 Understanding Fascia and Its Role in Healing
46:40 Breath: The Key to Connection and Healing
57:57 Intuition and Authenticity in Decision Making
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Metwally — That One Time Podcast (00:00.066)
What would you say is wrong with the modeling industry? It’s very unfulfilling. You wake up and you feel just completely empty. I was desperate for validation. I would never have a cookie. I would not touch sugar. I would never a piece of pizza or anything like this. It’s a brutal industry by the sounds of it. You’re on billboards, but you’ve said in the past that you felt like you were dying inside. What was going on? Big wake up call was really a day where I woke up. I couldn’t walk for five days, but I was so healthy my entire life. Yeah, but every suppressed emotions eventually shows up in your body and the body is able to heal itself.
when he’s given the right tools. If I help one person a day, then I’ve done my job right. Welcome to That One Time with Adam Metwally, the podcast bridging the gap between health, hustle and happiness. We are at Thursday Lab Studio in Venice, New York City, and I’m with Jules Horn. Jules has lived two completely different lives. In one, he was an industrial mechanic in a German village of 120 people fixing nuclear power plants. And then on the other, he was a top fashion model in New York City, but
despite the perfect life and the perfect body, he was in constant pain and emotionally numb. He’s now the founder of Mindful Movement, where he combines ancient wisdom with modern fascia science to help people heal trauma that is stuck in their bodies. Today, we’re digging into the dark secrets of the modeling industry, how his diet has evolved from veganism to eating raw meat and fruit, and now what he’s doing in 2026, plus...
the weirdest exercises you can do right now to look 10 years younger. We went from a mechanic in a tiny German village to the runways of New York City. Tell us how that happened. So I was lucky enough, a friend of mine, she was part-time modeling back in this tiny, like tiny village, small town next to this village. And she was like, you maybe should start modeling.
You’re handsome, Back then I was drinking a lot, Weekend Warrior. And I gave it a shot, so I sent out some pictures, took about like six months to find an agency, signed with a small agency in Nuremberg and then got signed with a bigger one in Munich. And then eventually after a year doing this part-time, I was able to quit my job. I was 23 back then. then I started traveling. First I went to Asia, South Korea, and then was in Singapore.
Metwally — That One Time Podcast (02:25.89)
I went to the States to see what’s going on here and then back to Germany. And then 2016, when I was 26, Bruce Weber discovered me on Instagram through my agent in Miami back then. then, yeah, that’s how my career kind of took off. I able to move to New York right away, signed with a big agency. And yeah, I was living there for six years through COVID and, you know, hustling every day, trying to make it happen.
Also, know always being really, have a very desperate energy. So, cause I wanted it so bad, I wanted to make it big as bad as I can. So I was really into it. And it’s with everything in life, when you push too much, you tend to push it away rather than attracting it to you. So, and on top of that, it almost like when you have a desperate energy around working and needing to work and wanting to book this next best thing, it’s almost like the client can smell that.
So I ended up my latter part of my career was just sort of like running after jobs and trying to get work and like trying to make it. And then, you know, when you don’t work for a couple of months and have to survive in the city like New York, it’s not that easy. it was always up and down, up and down. You would make money, no money, you know, be successful, not successful. And it takes a lot of your on your mental and emotional health because this industry is based around vanity a lot. So, oh, you look beautiful in a cover or you’re beautiful in this campaign.
feels good, it all feeds the ego. But essentially a lot of people, most people I know in the industry, generally not really happy because it’s not super fulfilling. It doesn’t really fill your soul. And I don’t think it’s anyone’s purpose to be only a model. I believe everyone has a gift that we need to share with each other to help each other along this way. Yeah. So how do you succeed without desperation when you really want it? You know,
Looking back, was there was many times where I was physically and emotionally really burned out because you try so hard you can be you have them. had the strictest diet. I was not eating anything, quote unquote, bad. I would never have a cookie. I would not touch sugar. I would never piece of pizza or anything like this. And you do everything you think that’s right and that’s necessary to do that. And then nothing happens. So I would wake up.
Metwally — That One Time Podcast (04:49.132)
Just exhausted and wouldn’t leave the bed for one or two days. And then it’s like a vicious cycle, you know, and then you pep yourself up again with social media. look at this person shot this. I’m going to shoot this next time. And then it’s all becomes like this, like a dreamland. It’s different than manifestation because when you come from a place of desperation, it’s very, very hard to manifest because you’re always wanting more. So you get this and then you want more and then you get this and you want more. you chase.
chase the dream or chasing the ghost, know? And then all of sudden is that you realize you shot this campaign, I walked this runway, whatever it is, and then all of a sudden you feel the same way, nothing changed internally. so looking back, it was a challenge for a decade, you know? Because it’s always like running, running, And then it’s this dopamine hit when you get a job booked and then you’re on this big job on option. And then two days before the shooting, almost, one of the things was like, was,
my first year in New York, was about to, I was on hold for the biggest job, like a Ralph Lauren fragrance. And I got news on my dad’s birthday, 24th of March, that they want to see me. So I went to the Ralph Lauren office and they loved me and so forth. had a short list of a handful of guys and it took three months for them to make a decision. So you’re in the hot seat for three months. Like every day you dream about like,
It’s life changing money, know, back then I think it was like half a million a year or something. wow. Hey, real money. then, yeah, so sometime in June, I get a text message from H and saying, they’re not going to choose you. They didn’t choose you, you know? So I’m like, entire world falls apart, you know? Yeah, you’re already... And then it’s like, becomes always about why, what’s wrong with me, why I’m not being chosen, but none of that is in my hands. Because it’s all like in the hands of the...
art director, creative director and the owner of the brand and so forth. yeah, it was a, it’s an interesting industry, you know, I’m not saying I would ever put my foot back into it, meaning like, okay, if the right brand comes and the right project is there, I’m happy to do it. If it’s aligned to my personal beliefs and personal brand, but I’m certainly far away from chasing the hustle, the day to day modeling hustle, trying to be in front of the camera every five minutes. I mean, you know.
Metwally — That One Time Podcast (07:07.726)
With content creation, I’m in front of camera, but it’s very different because I just be who I am. yeah, it’s very different. definitely. So how did you manage to maintain confidence through all the high profile rejection? I mean, you know, I’m not, I can’t sit here and say I always had the most confident ever. Yeah. Confidence because it’s, it’s very hard and I still have contact with certain models in the industry and you know, a lot of them struggle because it’s
It’s out of your hand. yet you try so hard to be the best version of yourself, quote unquote, what the industry standards want. And now the industry changed so much anyways over the last five, six years of social media. So nobody really knows what they want. So it’s almost like a guesswork from the agent side as well. It’s like, maybe do this, maybe do that. Or you shouldn’t be doing your personal thing. Just be a model and they don’t want this. don’t like make. And in the end of the day, you feel like your puppet.
that’s like being guided in 12 different directions. So it’s very difficult to stay confident because you’re confident as long as you work, but then you have a dip and then all of a sudden it’s like, oh shit, and now what? And you know, with me stepping into fatherhood now, this was like the number one thing in my head always was like, if I’m gonna be a father, I can’t a life like this. There’s zero stability. have my life not in my own hands. I’m always depending on other people, no matter how hard I work.
I’m not promised anything. And you know, as you know, as an entrepreneur and like being having not a nine to five job, you still have that experience in some form. But it’s more like if I show up for myself every day and I believe in myself and do good for other people, it always comes around. So I know I have it. I’m taking care of. So with that in mind, so you were picked up by Bruce Weber and you spent a lot of time working with some of the
biggest and wealthiest fashion icons. We said before, Lagenfald, Ralph Lauren. So from working with those brands and like a lot of high performers, a lot of stressed out high performers, mind you, was there something unique about them that you noticed that most people wouldn’t see? You know, I have to say, for example, Bruce is still a good friend of mine, Bruce Weber. We stay in touch and we talk every so often. And he’s a very spiritual person.
Metwally — That One Time Podcast (09:36.174)
It’s a lot of energy. He sees things that a lot of people won’t see. He captures things that a lot of people don’t see. So he is that’s his gift. That’s I truly believe he he can is able to see something and captured with this camera. To this day, he still photographs, right? And when you see his picture, you can feel something. And it’s all about that. Like it’s about a feeling. That’s the work I do. I want to make people feel self-love. And Bruce makes him feel.
warmth and love because it’s like it’s admiring certain pictures and images the way he shoots at and generally speaking when he’s with someone he he sends his energy even if he doesn’t talk about it much but I see it now more than ever. So would you say that a lot of those people that are successful in those domains have managed to capture the ability to invoke feelings in others? Definitely. Yeah. So if you look at someone like I never met Ralph Lauren
himself, those kind of people, create a, they use a gift they have to create something for humanity that makes him feel something. So if a woman wears a Ralph Lauren dress, she feels beautiful. If I like, I have a Ralph Lauren head on and I feel, I think it’s a great hat, you know, makes me feel good when I wear it. And it’s with everyone else in this industry, you know, it just comes, the lower it goes down, when it doubles down, this, the whole
industry changed so much over the last decades, you know, where a lot of that has maybe gotten lost, you know, with this whole Me Too movement and all those things, like just the control part. And as I said, like, there’s still pictures I like to look at and this I see campaigns that are beautiful. And I know the hard work that goes behind it. And in a sense, it’s really the higher you go in the hierarchy, meaning the more successful you become, even as a model.
the nicer the people around are you. So that’s when I was on the peak of my career, I had not a single bad experience on the job. They were all just profoundly nice, really nice, welcoming. You were taking care of everything. It’s beautiful, it’s a great industry, but it’s also this, it’s this dream that you then creating your mind is like, I’m gonna live like this forever. But in the end of the day, it’s like,
Metwally — That One Time Podcast (12:00.59)
hundreds of thousands of models. And then all of sudden, like the reality is like, is a male model or anything. Yeah, if you establish you’re still gonna work, there’s always the new kid on the block who’s gonna take over. And then, so what am I doing? I’m not gonna be 45 years old and like waiting for my agent to call me and like sitting around and do nothing. It’s like very unfulfilling, you know? So, but yeah, all those people created, who had the ability or still have the ability to create something beautiful and make people feel something.
Is that why lot of models go into acting for more longevity, like age-wise? Maybe, you know, or maybe some, a lot of them have a, maybe have the talent, but it’s also an easy transition, you know? what are you doing now? Yeah, I’m going to act now because there was a model and I must be good in front of the camera. the reality is like what I’ve seen, and I know a lot of actors and I worked with actors and so forth. The most successful people in any industry as well as in acting, they...
They do that because it’s a passion. And they don’t do it to make money. Of course it comes with it and it’s a beautiful industry to be in and you can be very successful and make a great a big wealth for yourself. But the number one thing for them was the passion and the drive to be in front of the camera and express their emotion and be someone else. What would you say is wrong with the modeling industry now you mentioned it earlier? I tend to not say there’s something right or there’s something wrong. I believe that just is.
Yeah. We just have to step up. I step one step back and look at it from a bird’s eye view a little bit. It’s definitely saturated since social media has become so big. Everyone is a photographer. Everyone is a model. Everyone is an art director. Everyone is a creative director. So a lot of people just went into it because they want to make money again. So, you know, I went into that. I was desperate for validation.
and I wanted to make money and it served me well for a certain period of time. It’s both of those things. It’s both all the time, know, the money part, not so much, but the validation because still I’m like, even if it was that is broke for a couple of years and end, I still was a model on my Instagram, right? Oh shit, I’m a model. I’m like, you know, it’s like, puts you on a pedestal, you know, like fuck that. It doesn’t, doesn’t mean anything. The reality is like, nobody actually cares. Yeah.
Metwally — That One Time Podcast (14:25.058)
This is the number one thing I learned from all of that, whether it’s the training, like training twice a day, going crazy with workouts, whether it’s like trying to chase a modeling dream. Nobody cares really, but yourself and who cares, it’s your ego. All that cares is your ego and that little child inside of us just wants to feel love. the ego translates us into needing validation.
So there’s a disconnect from my emotional body to the ego and to myself. And then all of a sudden, all I’m doing is feeding the ego and those emotions that I’ve stored within myself, whether it’s anger, resentment, grief, all those emotions. If you can look at it like a monster, they’re just in the corner doing pushups. And then the first thing happens, the first trigger comes up and you explode. It’s like, oh, it goes on and on and on, decades on end. And then all of a sudden you end up having...
physical pain, emotional, like your mental health is not good, creating diseases and so forth. And it’s like, but I was so healthy my entire life. Yeah. But every suppressed emotions eventually shows up in your body and you know, it creates this illusion. Definitely. I mean, I want to talk about that more. The idea of the body prison. So, you know, you’re on billboards, but you’ve said in the past that you felt like you were dying inside. What was going on? So it’s, know, as I said, you wake up,
certain days and you feel just completely empty in a sense where it’s like, okay, I achieved X, Y and Z. have this and I’ve been there. I flew there and I visited this city and I feel this is all beautiful. And when you’re there, it’s beautiful. It’s a dopamine. And then you come back and it’s like, okay, and what’s next? And then in a sense was like, you know, as I said, I took extreme care of my body. would be
You could put me on the most restricted diet and I’d just be happy. Like I told myself I’m happy with that. Just to get to a certain physical level or whatever it is. yeah, it’s just, again, it’s this gap now I understand that I created within my emotional body to my physical body, to my spirituality, to my soul. There’s a gap that get bigger and bigger and bigger and that keeps you this gap is what makes you feel empty. And then all of a sudden when I understood that, I was...
Metwally — That One Time Podcast (16:44.022)
I started understanding it early enough where my physical body started to show me signs of lower back issues, chronic. And it was just pushing through it, pushing through it. then eventually, if I wouldn’t have listened, the big wake up call was really a day where I woke up. I couldn’t walk for five days. And then I was like, if I’m not changing, my dad passed about three years prior to that. If I wouldn’t have changed, I said to myself, I end up like my father who was...
physically abusing myself with like a lot of alcohol, the wrong foods and just emotionally being very detached from himself. And I was like, I can’t do that. And I had to strive within myself always to do something for people. You know, I tried many things, nutrition coaching, fitness training, but all that never really resonated with me. And then I came to a point where I’m like, okay, if I can get myself out of pain with this fascia work and understand that people always were telling me you have a
I have the ability to listen so I can hold space in a conversation. And then I started working with people, incorporated the breath much more than I was able to hold space on an analytical level. And I can do that through anything, meaning I can be virtually, can be through videos, through text, anything. People feel something. And that’s the bottom line of my entire brand of mindful movement is like, my brand is how I make people feel. And the feeling is a remembering that you’re loved and that you’re safe.
And that the entire universe lays in your hands, you know? Yeah. So if you were to go back to the version of you in, 2018, what would you have done differently this time? You know, to be honest, and I know that sounds always corny, but I wouldn’t do anything different because otherwise I wouldn’t be the person I am today. That’s really the reality. Because every path, every corner I turned in the last 10 years led me to this point right here, right now.
And that’s, I don’t regret anything. I wouldn’t do anything different. Maybe there’s a better way to frame the question, which is if there’s a version of you in New York right now, feeling exactly what you’re feeling, knowing what you know now, how would you advise them to approach the next five years of their career? I would say, I think that’s a little clearer. I would say sit back, slow down your breath, go inward.
Metwally — That One Time Podcast (19:06.894)
What if they’re afraid? That monster eventually will go away when you look at it in the face. Those emotions that have been triggering, whether it’s anger, resentment, and all those things, will go away. The monster keeps sitting at your table and eats your food. Those emotions are the monster. And I like this analogy because they sit in, as long as you start looking at the monster in the eyes and ask, why are you still here? It keeps sitting on the table and eats all your food away.
So in the minute you start questioning and realizing that this anger and resentment, you can use this alchemy and turn it into love for other people and yourself first. Till then, nothing’s going to change. I’m keen to explore more about the fascist stuff in a moment down the line. So, but just wrapping up on this part of your life, because I think it’s very fascinating for a lot of people. It’s a brutal industry by the sounds of it.
Was there like a nightmare shoot or a story that you can share that just sticks out to you? You know, it’s interesting because one of my first shoots when I was back in Germany, like it might have been the first two months in, I had a shoot and it was a low end shoot. There was no budget. I didn’t get paid much, nothing. And I was just like starting out. And I never forget, this was in Munich and it was in this loft and this photographer was this the biggest asshole I’ve ever came across. And he was so rude to me. He’s like, you
You don’t pose right. Why are you looking this way? And he was like, just add me the entire shoot. And I’ll never forget that. I’m like, this is terrible. And I almost wanted to quit afterwards, you know? So was one of those moments where I’m like, this is insane. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It’s funny how the people with the lowest budgets are usually the worst ones. And they ask for the most. it’s, it’s always the same. It’s always like, they want to, you know, they have a big budget, but I want to drink champagne. That’s really what it is. Yeah.
Get rid of them. Skip them. Was there a fun or dumb thing you experienced as a model backstage? Was there something interesting that you heard that you still think about today? I mean, you you meet people in the Royce Forum. know, had a, once had a cover shoot with Sam Smith, the artist. Oh, that’s cool. And, you know, you just understand. It’s more like very intriguing because you understand they’re all just really nice, normal people.
Metwally — That One Time Podcast (21:29.442)
And the more normal you treat them, the nicer they are. Same with Karl Lagerfeld. I mean, he’s German. We spoke German a lot and he really started liking me as a human, you know, and he cared for you. And I was like, this is amazing because he’s this icon and like everyone, it’s almost like a God to a lot of people, like to those fashion victims, you know, he’s like, my God, Karl Lagerfeld, can’t, I have to hold my breath when he walks by or something like this. And we just had a normal conversation.
As I said earlier, the higher you go on the hierarchy, the nicer the people are and all they want to be surrounded by is normal people who treat them actually like normal humans. Yeah. So how do you interact with people who have a huge profile now? Just like we’re doing it right now. Very normal. I like to be polite. I like to listen and just treat everyone the same. What’s the process of auditioning for a major brand?
You know, it changed over the last years. In the beginning, it was all in-person casting. So you would go, there’s a casting director, you bring your portfolio. In the beginning, it was all like printed out pictures in your book. And then it changed to like iPads. And then eventually it changed with COVID. It changed to not having very few in-person castings anymore. Then it became like about how a larger social media following is how you present yourself.
And so yeah, it all changed over the last couple of years so much. there’s, don’t even know what it is right now, but I believe it’s still like a lot of the things it’s just, they go on the website of the, from the agency, they, they send out a package agency with a bunch of guys in there who they ask for and then they make a decision. Yeah. Are they pretty savage? Like you’d say in the movies where they’re just like, next, next, next. I luckily never really had to do the whole runway thing.
when I only did one proper runway show and it was for Chanel 2017. And because I was always on the shorter side, I’m six foot and I didn’t have to audition anything like this, but I heard crazy stories where everyone was just like super cutthroat. You stay in line for three hours and then they give you 10 seconds. You’re like, yeah, no, you’re not right. They’re not even talking to you. They look at you and no, you’re good. Next. It’s crazy. So before the runways, you were fixing machines in a nuclear power plant. Yeah.
Metwally — That One Time Podcast (23:51.342)
What was the biggest lesson you learned from getting your hands dirty in the factory that helped you survive the fake and cloud chasing world of fashion? Well, you know, it’s like I always knew what I learned through that is like if you work really hard, you might get to a place, but it might not serve you as well. know, so it’s one of those lessons where you’re like, OK, maybe I don’t have to work my ass off all the time. Maybe I should find something that lights me from within. That’s really the biggest lesson.
Because I did that job, I hated that job for seven years and I didn’t like it. They really, I was drinking a lot even throughout the week. And it was one of those life lessons where I’m like, okay, I certainly don’t want to do that ever again. So I mean, working hard basically isn’t a guarantee that things will work out. No, it’s not. And as long as you’re in a system where you have to perform in whatever capacity it is and when you’re...
when the outcome is based on your performance and you’re not really in it fully with your heart, it always going to be ending up staying work for you. So in a lot of times then you wake up in the morning, you’re not looking forward to your day because you don’t like to work all the time. So I’d rather live a life where I don’t ever work a day in my life because I’m living in my Dharma and I’m living my purpose and I’m showing up to share my gift. Just quickly though, I love doing these podcasts.
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Metwally — That One Time Podcast (26:14.67)
Why had veganism failed you at that time and what’s happened now? So, you know, to be honest, again, I went vegan in 2019 in the beginning of the year because it was, I had tried every diet and I didn’t feel good in my body. That was the main thing. Then I watched a few documentaries and then I was like, okay, I got the, the side, I saw the side, how the animals get slaughtered and so forth. And I became hardcore vegan because it’s just what I, what I wanted to do. And
And again, it was validation based on the way I look. And I told myself, it’s because of the animals, but it wasn’t really it was just about the way I look. And I wanted to be part of something because we as humans need to be meant to be in community. So I was all of a sudden I was a vegan and had this hardcore audience behind me like veganism. And this is a way if you don’t eat vegan, you’re going to die very soon and you never be healthy, you know, the whole nine yards I was doing this whole thing. Then my dad passed away. And then I went
started eating meat again in 2021 and it was back and forth for many years. What was the catalyst? So I went to see my dad right before he, like a couple of months before he died, died and he was a butcher and I just spent time with him and I was like, oh, maybe I should just eat meat again. As a bonding experience. a thing. And it came back to like old memories, you know. So I did that and then it, I went back and forth over the last couple of years and then, know, social media and...
Pulsar Ladino became so huge and all of sudden, this is the only way you can get in shape. So started eating meat and then I started eating raw meat, know, and all this stuff for an X amount of time, never really long term, long enough that I can say this is the way, you know? And there’s also not one way or the highway for anyone because everyone is very different. fast forward to now, I basically had a, like two, three months ago, I...
was not feeling so great again. I was eating a lot of meat. was eating primarily like a ketogenic diet. I was still eating a lot of plants like avocados, nuts and seeds, but it just didn’t feel good. I was eating a lot of meat, a lot of dairy fruit, a little bit of fruit, not much. And it was all just came to a point where I was sitting in meditation. I just really went inwards. And I, there’s a saying and I always use that it’s
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God whispers and the ego is yelling and when you know how to listen, you know the answer. So a lot of times when you’re the present moment and you know, you listen to your intuition, which is God talking through you, then you get your answer right away. So, and in that moment I was just being told and I was listening that I shouldn’t be eating meat, any dead animal flesh, because the reality behind that is the work I do is very pure and it needs to be connected to God to source. And I noticed the
prior months to that when I was eating a lot of meat, was doing, feeling the emotions from other people in those sessions and showing up for myself on a daily basis, but I would be always a little bit, it felt interfered on an energetical and an emotional level. So I was like, okay, you know what, I don’t have any attachment to anything anymore. So was like, let’s just cut out meat and fish and all that. So I stopped eating it. I still have eggs sometimes and I still have some dairy with this.
there’s a pizza I need to try, know, with some good cheese on it, I still have that. But generally speaking, I don’t really want to label myself anymore. And I’m also not here to like tell anyone what to do because it’s everyone’s own journey. But for me in this lifetime, I don’t believe there’s space for me anymore to eat a lot of animals because I do believe animal flesh, you also inject the energy and the energy interferes with my personal energy. And then I can’t be the cleanest vessel possible. And that’s why I chose the path of
being plant-based, whatever you want to call it. And, you know, there’s going to be vegans who say, can, why should you eat eggs? It’s like, it’s whatever. Like I don’t want to label myself hardcore anymore for anything. And I know the truth for me, what really works. And it’s about finding your personal balance. Obviously it has to do, should be whole foods in any form. Anything extreme eventually breaks unless you’re into it, meaning like with your heart.
and it feels right and you’re not doing for anyone but yourself and everything else will fall into place from that from then on. It seems like you’re working through the eightfold path. Yeah, the Buddhist, it’s the Buddhist eightfold path and step four is right action, which generally means like no killing of any form. Do not harm. So it makes sense and getting into, it seems like you’re getting into more and more spiritual practices.
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as time goes on. So these are tools that have been used for a long time to get closer to source. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah, that’s how I feel. That’s exactly how I feel. Makes a lot of sense. But that being said, the raw meat thing sounds super interesting. So I’d love to hear about how he got there and what was going on. Well, I have a good friend. His name is Ian Clark, and he’s a company called Activation Products. And he’s been a pioneer in this field of health and wellness.
You know, he’s 69 and I always try to look up to people, have mentors and friends who older than me, because due to more life experience, he also healed himself from cancer. wow. Wait, hold on. 20 years ago. And he had cancer. He had a tumor in his perineum, which is a space between your rectum and your genitals, right between your legs, the size of a golf ball, a tennis ball. And he said he didn’t want to go to a doctor and do chemo or anything because his two uncles passed away.
a day apart two years before that. From chemo? From cancer and chemo, yeah. So long story short, he was like, I met him and he was like, you know, I’ve been on this diet, it’s primal diet, you know. Right, so how did he get, did he use the diet? no, the diet. He just like played around with a lot of things over the years. Do you know what he did? So mainly it’s like a detoxing of the body. That’s all that is like removing stress from the body. So he reversed his cancer through detoxing the body. Which is...
A lot of times, you know, it’s a very controversial thing, I... What do you do? A lot of cancers stem from what I believe too is stem from parasites, different parasites in the body, which also stem from no parasite can survive in a body where there’s self-love. So a lot of times cancers stem from a place of lack of self-love, self-doubt, grief, resentment against oneself. That’s what I believe with the work I’m doing. And then, you know, it becomes a parasite and parasites in the body
interfere with the system and then all of sudden you create like, we create tumors, which is a sign from the body to there’s something is wrong. So, you know, he did everything he could. He learned from different people to detox his body in a very efficient way and then reverse and heal this cancer. then, yeah, he was one of those guys. was like, I met him and he was, you know, I do this diet. It’s been amazing. I’ve been doing it for a couple of weeks and I was like, okay, let me try it. And it feels good. You know, it’s it’s exciting and then something new.
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something new, but it also gets very old because after a while you’re like, okay, I can’t see raw meat. At least for me, you know? And it didn’t feel, make me feel amazing. But yeah, that’s how I kind of fell into that. It’s like over a year and a half ago. So, didn’t really stick to it too long, to be honest. Was there something unique that you were regularly eating that people might feel like disgusting? I would have grind my own meat. I have this hand grinder, grind raw meat every day.
and then eat raw eggs, you heart, balls? I wouldn’t do anything crazy like that. Yeah. Okay. I mean, you know, and again, there’s no right or wrong. Everyone can do whatever they want. It’s just not on my path in this lifetime. Yeah. I went carnival for a month a few years ago and it was fascinating. I had so much energy and I did, ate meat, organ meats.
a little bit of Greek yogurt and a tiny, tiny bit of fruit, just a tiny bit of fruit. And did it for a month. And then I had like, I was so horny. I had so much energy and I felt strong. lost weight, but I didn’t do it long enough to see any potential downsides. My cholesterol went through the roof though. But I don’t necessarily know that’s a big issue in that situation. Yeah. I mean, you know, there’s, there’s many different people who look at it differently. And I believe
Everyone has to find their own path. There’s not enough studies, I believe, to pack a full carnivore diet. I the idea isn’t even about the studies, it’s about the deep, rich human history. Yeah, you know, but again, how much was the lifespan back then? 35, 40 years? Only because of very, very high amount of infant mortality. But from what I understand, if somebody made it to like...
a middle to later age and didn’t die from war. They tended to live really like if not as long or longer than we currently live. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. know, again, for me, it’s like I look at it from a place of on an antichetical part and the being like that, your libido goes up and you you’re horny like a stray dog. It has a lot to do with because meat is very stimulating. Yeah. It’s almost like a drug eventually. Yeah. And it has a lot of energy in there. Yeah. So it’s it feeds.
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that part of your body. not saying like if someone doesn’t eat meat, you can’t have like high testosterone or libido. That’s completely the opposite. For me, I just, as I said earlier, it has a spiritual aspect and there’s no question anymore. I once took a yoga class a couple of years ago and this resonated with me a lot back then. And I was like, there’s this, his name is Dharma, Dharmamitra. He has a place called Dharma Yoga in New York and he’s
He’s in his 80s. He does everything. They still like backbends and like he’s incredible in shape. And he said in this class, said, you know, a lot of people might not, it’s not in the Dharma in this lifetime to be a vegetarian and to understand that the way to be closest to God and yourself. And, you know, when I say this now, a lot of people might say, that’s completely wrong. But again, there’s no right or wrong. It’s just a statement that’s very, very valid.
It makes sense. And it makes sense if you look back into history and ancient Yogi practices, Buddhism, anything. It’s like, do no harm, you know? So, if you don’t harm an animal and eat the emotions, then you have a cleaner path to soul, to self and to spirit. And from that place, you might find yourself, you know? And there’s many ways to do that, but...
If I look at the lowest hanging fruit for myself to be as much connected to myself as I can, then for me, was like when I heard that in my meditation and got that input and download, I was like, okay, that’s it. You know, I don’t, there’s not no question in my mind because it’s like, if I’m here to serve other people and to be the best version of myself to do so, I want to have the easiest path possible.
If I want to climb Mount Everest and I choose to carry an extra 50 pounds around, it’s going to be a harder climb. Right. So it’s the same for me with like carrying that energy from from the food around. But again, it’s my path. It’s not nobody has the same path that as myself has because we all different. seems like it’s a back and forth battle at the moment between like meat, vegetarian, veganism. Yeah.
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Did you get a lot of hate online when you started shifting back into eating meat at the time back then? Yeah, but it also like it almost like I Should then jump the gun and went into the now I’m eating meat again and you’re like this controversial again. It all comes back down to be Seeking validation and being in the eye of the public and then now he’s doing this and like it becomes this back-and-forth thing which is also Toxic on its own for for oneself, you know, we’ve been
I think we’re both going down the same path right now when it comes to detox. I noticed you did an intestinal cleanse. Yeah. did. I noticed you did a kidney cleanse, which I did. Have you just started doing these? So I started all that about a year ago. cleanse. Zen cleanse. And I’ve done some, you know, some liver flushes and all those things. And it’s wild. It’s very profound, you know? It’s crazy. How I look at it and I, in my mindful movement, I show that in a...
teach that to people and show that what I did and what it works and so forth is if you look at your body like you would look at your like your internal environment, like you look at a kitchen, if you’re internal, your organs, your gut and everything is your kitchen and you don’t clean your kitchen for three decades, it’s going to be disaster. And it doesn’t matter how high of a quality of food you buy, how organic it is. It doesn’t all matter because eventually the body can’t process it anymore. And that’s why detoxing the body
And the word detox get thrown around. It’s just like maintenance. Eventually, okay, if I don’t clean my house, I have to have like a whole crew coming in and clean detox or like do a spring cleaning properly. And that’s essentially all that is. And those companies are successful like SendCleanse because a lot of so many people completely backed up in the guts. They have 20, 30 pounds of waste material in this digestive system. Of course you can’t feel good. You have brain fog, you have anxiety because it’s all stress on the body. So when you clean house,
then all of sudden you can find a place where you can maintain all that. Yeah. Yeah, it was wild. Some of the shit that came out. Literally. I know. The mucoid plaque. It’s nasty. Nasty. But it really concerns me. I’m like, what the fuck? long has that been in there for? I know. It’s wild. But since, so I, probably, he’s probably going to come on the podcast, Josh Mason, Detox Dudes. Yeah. But he, yeah, I’ve been doing a lot of his stuff.
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And I also found out that I had mold poisoning and heavy metal toxicity about a year ago. So I started working. It’s been a combination of detoxing the mold and heavy metals. And I’ve been throwing in some of the cleansers. in the last month, I’ve got more energy than I’ve ever had in my life. My brain is so much clearer. Like I’m waking up, getting out of bed, hitting the gym, working hard, focused, working late. I’ll get home and I’m like, why’s it still got energy?
I’m just going to keep doing stuff. I’ve never felt like this before. I’ve started drinking coffee again, but I really cut it back for the last few months because I was dialing in on the detox, did the AIP diet, is pretty much autoimmune protocol, which is pretty much the lowest inflammation diet you can do outside of going carnival. It’s been fascinating. Fascinating. Did you ever see, I saw a video of a tumor
in someone’s brain, but it was just parasites. Have you seen this? I haven’t seen that video, no. Must be nasty. It’s crazy. It’s some stuff that you’ve... I’ve heard about this parasite theory of cancer as well. And you hear it for the first time and you think, that’s bat shit crazy. There’s no way. And then you start seeing things about it and it starts to kind of make more sense. Yeah. It’s very interesting. you know, unfortunately a lot of people don’t know how good they can feel and...
I like this, what Gary always says is- Gary Lanham. Yeah, Gary when he always says like when the pain of staying the same is greater than the pain of change, people change. And hopefully more more people will wake up and they do, but you don’t want to wait too long because otherwise the climb up there is very, very difficult, you know, get out of this hole. Yeah. I want to move into, you know, mindful movement, your business, trauma and healing and fascia. So-
This is fascia seems like the core of this whole modality. Is that correct? So it’s, you know, there’s a lot of fascia practices in the fascia releases and so forth. The core is really nervous system regulation in a sense where I get, okay, everyone’s stress cup is constantly overflowing. The nervous system is jacked up. How can I get myself out of fight or flight mode with as little time and as little practices as possible? And it’s centered around the breath a lot, slowly breathing.
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and then certain affirmations. then when you do the fascia releases, when you already have your breath down, then you actually can create amazing things in your body. Release a lot of trauma emotions, cry, feel. And that’s where the core of all that is. you know, as I said, my brand is how I make people feel and how the feeling is just remembering that you’re safe, that you love them, that you’re enough. And when we all feel that on a daily basis,
just for a few seconds or minutes, your body remembers and all of sudden your day to day becomes lighter because you feel safer in yourself. You’re less in your head and more in your heart. And from that place, you can start loving yourself. And then when you have enough self love, you can give that away to other people. Then you find the right partner and the right people in your life. And then all of a sudden you can find your gift, which then you can completely give away. And then you have your life path.
I want to dig into that more. That was, there’s a lot in that, which is really, really, really, really important. cause I want to talk about your life path and how you’ve found this. Cause it seems like it’s, just been a slow progression over time. But, to go back to the beginning, I’d love for you to explain the importance of fascia to me.
like I’m five and why it’s a really critical component to understanding pain and understanding the nervous system. So if you look at fascia, which is a network through the entire body, and I always like to use the analogy of a sausage because my dad was a butcher and I’ve seen him making many sausages, right? So if you look at a sausage and the fascia is a casing, so it runs everywhere in the body, that’s a casing. So over time, when you
There’s many factors to that. Lack of movement, dehydration, toxicity, too much stress. casing, the fascia gets tighter and tighter. So essentially it becomes your own, like it becomes a meat suit in a sense. So the suit is really tight. So the body becomes a prison for yourself, for your soul. So my belief is the longer you push that away, the longer you decon...
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disconnect from your body. The louder your soul eventually screams and you might not be able to hear because you live in your ego. And then eventually the soul decided, okay, if this person is not able to listen, I have to do something. And then for lot of people that looks different. So some people create diseases. Some people have chronic back pain, chronic pain in the bodies and all those things. And that all stems from suppressed emotions.
So the fascia, this network holds the emotion that we experience. Different areas, know, we have the liver, the liver holds a lot of anger and grief. So if I never address that, I might have a problem with my liver eventually. And that all is connected, you know, there’s not one part, I just focus on this part and then everything else is great. But it’s, okay, what can I do on a daily basis to open my fascia on that level and take care of that. And it has really a lot, it’s like a 360 approach.
what I believe, it’s like, you know, a lot of the things has to do with detoxing my physical body, because if there’s an enormous amount of stress through toxicity and through inflammation, it causes restriction on the fascia because it’s just cause inflammation does it. So, and then the second part is how can I, how am I moving and how am I breathing? What is my mineralization and hydration look like? What’s my diet? So if you look at all of that and then you incorporate the breath as a center, all of a sudden you’re like, okay, now I actually feel
my body and then one part might get better then another thing gets worse. It always is like, it’s a little bit of rollercoaster. like what I say, it’s like you peeling an onion and one of the layers might be a little bit moldy, not so pretty. It’s painful whether it’s emotionally or physically and then it goes away and then it comes and goes and comes and goes. And then eventually if you keep at it, it’s not gonna take you three decades to get out of pain or out of toxicity if you’re 35 years old, something like this.
If you never took care of yourself for three decades, it’s going to take you a few weeks or a few months, you know, maybe a year or two. But all of sudden you feel different, you become a different person. And then that’s really all like all around. You can obsess over everything, you know, fascia is very, important, but so is the breath. You know, when you look at fascia and you understand it, that my body holds the emotions within that network and I’m able to target.
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with awareness and the breath and movement, certain areas and release those emotions, then it becomes very powerful. But if I only do something, when I started all this, I was like, oh, I’m just going to do this fascia maneuver. And that’s like a couple of years ago to get out of pain so I can train harder or I can get super shredded, you know. And I was studying that and didn’t get anything out of it. Almost worse because it causes the most stress.
mental stress, but also physical stress. Because if I’m not breathing and I go into a twisting position where I’m holding my breath or breathe really shallow, it causes more stress. Yeah, if I get out of it, I feel better. But it doesn’t mean I just did something good to my body. It’s the same if I squeeze my arm really hard, really, really hard, and then let go. Oh yeah, I feel better now because it just created a lot of stress on my body. So we have to look at it as a complete approach where it’s like, okay, external environment,
internal environment, emotional, physical and spiritual body altogether. And it might sound very overwhelming, but for anyone who’s listening right now, certainly the most important thing, the first thing people should start with is the breath. Because you can go weeks without food, can go days without water, but how long can you go without oxygen? A couple of minutes. So most people don’t breathe because it doesn’t cost money. And your soul keeps breathing. Your body’s keeping breathing because your soul wants your life. So, but you got to listen and the body is
able to heal itself when he’s given the right tools. And one of the number one, the the sledgehammer is the breath. That’s what moves the needle the most. And yet most people don’t want to do it. What’s your favorite breath exercise? Really, it’s just like the most basic one is it’s called the perfect breath. It’s a four second inhale through the nose and six second exhale. My personal favorite right now at this place in my life is
I like to slow down as much as I can per minute. So the cadence of my breath, meaning if I sit down in meditation in the morning and I breathe in like for 12 seconds, for example, and an exhale for 18, it’s two breaths per minute. And then after a while, you can even, I can slow down further. And then all of a sudden you realize all that stuff you think matters, doesn’t matter. It’s all just stuff. Cause you’re here now, present in the moment, right here, right now. And all that is just
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awareness and I am this, which is God is living in all of us. And then you feel that and that’s pure bliss. And you can’t buy that. You can mimic that. You have to experience and feel it. And it’s for free. It’s there for everyone. In unlimited amounts of times, you can feel that it’s there every second of your life. And my goal is to make people understand in the brain.
mentally, but also most importantly, feel that that it’s there for them any second of their life. So whenever I drive myself crazy, have anxiety coming up, come back to your breath. And all of sudden you understand there’s two ways I can do that. I can drive myself nuts. I can just stay calm. The outcome most likely will be the same. It’s always going to work out the way it’s supposed to. But we live in a society where everyone is running a rat race that they never win anyways. And everyone’s chasing the ghost. And then all of sudden you have millions of dollars.
You have the houses, you have the cars, and then you’re still empty inside. And you don’t know how to breathe. Yeah. You mentioned trauma stored in the body. I’ve read the book, The Body Keeps School, which explores this as well. I’d to hear a story of a client who had had a massive emotional release. Like, did they cry? Did they remember something from their childhood? What happened? You know, the childhood part is very common, but early on when I started working with people,
And I’d be honest, I was always a little bit skeptical. I’m like, okay, can the body really hold that? I never really experienced it. I’ve never experienced it myself, you know? And I had a client and there’s this release I do to people where you just open your throat chakra, basically, defociating your throat like this. So you, we can do it really quick. So you place your right hand on two, the right two fingers, you go right here. This is a release to speak your truth, right? So if people suppress their voice, never be able to speak the truth as they grow up.
children was like, don’t say that. Why would you say that? Just be quiet. Don’t say anything in front of X, Y and Z people. Then we shut down and we swallow a lot our truth and we never speak up. So my two parents both never were able to speak the truth. And when they were in the mid 20s, they got part of the thyroid taken out because of thyroid issues. just what they did in Germany. Wow. we just cut it open and take it out. Whatever. Like what’s the root cause? the root cause.
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Most likely suppressed emotions never speak your truth, you know. So if you use your two hands and then you go here, right where there’s little creases. everyone should do this. Like where the bone is? Like right here, you know, where this, this little crease. You go right here. then you gently pull down. Then with your left hand, you go onto your right where the Adam’s apple is. You grab it just gently like this, like here. Go a little bit wider. Yeah. Grab the throat and gently push it up. So don’t strangle yourself. Okay.
And then you just bring your head back a tiny bit, close your eyes and just breathe in through the nose, into your throat, inhale.
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Inhale.
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And then just repeat after me, say, thank you God for giving me a voice. Thank you God for giving me a voice. I’m ready to use my voice and speak my truth. I’m ready to use my voice and speak my truth. I no longer have to tell lies to myself. I no longer have to tell lies to myself. I’m letting go of this pain now. I’m letting go of this pain now. Breathe in.
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Excel.
Good. Gently release your hands, keep your eyes closed for a moment. Just observe your body. Maybe you feel a subtle shift in your nervous system. And then you open your eyes.
I feel like stressed. feel like it’s churning into my body. the beginning it might cause a lot of stress because when people hold a lot here, then it’s just like your body wants to fight against it because it’s not a safe environment yet and it feels foreign. But the more you do that, the safer you start feeling. That’s why I always love to bring God in the center because then you feel supported on that end as well.
So I showed that because I had a client early on where I showed him this on myself like this. said, I’m going to come around and I do this to you. And he couldn’t look at me. I’m like, did you ever get strangled? He’s like, no. He’s like, what’s going on? He’s like, oh, my grand grandfather was hung in Poland and he couldn’t see me even touch my own neck. So he had this imprint in his neck because his grand grandfather was hung and none of his
parents, grandparents ever worked through that. So that’s when I really truly knew that trauma lives in the body in certain areas, you know. And a lot of people I worked with when they get strangled as children or whatever, they have this whole issue on the throat. They don’t allow anyone to touch it. It would freak out. You know, it’s a remembering. I did date with Destiny. Do you know Date with Destiny? Tony Robbins. Yeah. We did an exercise where
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We were thinking about it like painful memory or something that was like on your mind. And then we would like scream like the scream out the memory basically or something along those lines and like release it. I’ve never done anything like that before. And I tend to have like an anxious stomach. I think partially it might have been like gut issues, partially a few other maybe emotional, whatever low back weakness, but a few things. I noticed
I did that and I thought about a memory with an ex-business partner. And I, in those few, you know, 10 minutes of doing this exercise, I felt like the anxiety just like go. It’s crazy. I’ve never experienced that. And like, just like a click in my stomach. Well, the stomach holds a lot of resentment, right? So if you hold the resentment against an ex-business partner and you never address it, you just push it down, push it down.
And your trigger comes up and you’re like, my God, this asshole, da da da. So when you address that, and again, what I said in the beginning, if you look at this monster in the eyes and like, why the heck are you still here and eating my food? Then eventually it’s going to go away. And there’s many ways to roam to you do that, you know? But one of those practices you guys did clearly worked for you. And then it’s just like, okay, maybe you can explore that a little bit more and use it in different scenarios, different memories and different emotions, you know? Yeah. Well, on that note, I mean, you’ve got videos of like,
pulling people’s tongues or silent screaming to release trauma. It looks, it looks wild. I’ve never done it before, but like, well, I guess I’ve done the other experience, but yeah, does it, does it work and what, what’s going on? So yeah, you know, as I said, the tongue, when you pull the tongue, you’re never speaking your truth. It all gets compressed. So the muscle, fascia, is tight. So this is tight here.
It goes all the way down to your large toe. The tongue is connected on the fascia level to your toe. So then the pelvic floor is really tight. Everything is tight. So if you open it up, the prison you kind of chop away the walls of the physical prison you live in. not just do you feel bad in your body, but also what I believe the largest organ is the aura. So if your aura is the largest organ and you open your physical prison, all of a sudden you can expand your auric field tremendously. And then you walk into a room and they...
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that everyone’s looking at you. not because the way you look, it’s your energy you bring into the room, it’s your auric field. There’s a lot of different pathways to go here. What are the best resources for somebody who’s listening that wants to begin to explore all of this and all the potential improvements that can benefit from this work? I mean, you know, I show a lot on a daily basis. Obviously, there’s great other practitioners out there.
And in the end of the day, I feel there’s many ways to roam and it’s just find someone. And it doesn’t necessarily have to be me. Some people might not resonate with my story of what I’m practicing, but it’s important to find someone we can relate to and that feels authentic to you that you can find a practice through breathing first. That’s what I say. And then finding the right way to nourish your body, the right way to detox your body.
that you know from within that it’s that’s the right person and that’s the right path for you. That’s most it has to be authentic because otherwise we’re just doing it out of ego and all our soul what I believe is our soul cares for is that it be that we are our most authentic self on a daily base and that’s the biggest path I’m on. How can I show up as my full authentic self on a daily base and you know
I was lucky to have great mentors in my life, but eventually I was like, okay, I know I’m not here to walk in someone else’s path. I’m here to, to pay for over that. Nobody has traveled yet and that’s what I’m doing. So anyone listens who wants to walk this path with me, I’m here to guide anyone along the journey, you know? And as I said, I feel very blessed to be able to be in that position and to be able to also be vulnerable enough to say, okay, maybe what I did a year ago,
wasn’t the right thing for myself, you know, which I did with diet and so forth many times, but I was always ashamed of it and like worried and like guilt, guilt shame myself. And now I’m in a place is like, first of all, we always changing and there’s certain principles that I want to live by. And everyone I’m telling this right now has actually has, has nothing but good feedback. Even people who for themselves believe they have to eat three pounds of meat a day. If you come from the place of like,
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awareness and self-development, nobody really can. I have not experienced anything negative. Would you suggest somebody just picks one exercise and just runs with it for a couple of months or tries a bunch of stuff, one different one every day? So reality is like, we have to bring the nervous system from a height of Empire State building at least to like the fifth floor and the fastest way to do that, the most efficient way is really slow deep breath.
which is the perfect breath. If you work yourself up to a four second inhale, six second exhale, do that for 30 minutes a day. And totally takes about seven and half hours to reprogram your nervous system, your breathing patterns. So within 15 days, you’ll be able to have your body understand that it’s safe in this breathing pattern. And then it actually can translate that into your day to day life. Meaning like you sit in your car, you wait for something, your body automatically might start breathing like this, slow down your breath.
slow and deep into your diaphragm into your pelvic floor all the way down. And that’s the lowest hanging fruit I can tell anyone. Because it doesn’t make sense to me to say, you have to do this fascia maneuver or this crazy technique before you have mastered the art of breathing, which we all have ingrained in ourselves. So again, it comes back to remembering to know unknowing. Once you have it, you’ll never unlearn that because you already learned it before. And your body knows how to do it. It goes very fast.
but you still have to put in the work and show up for yourself every day. So, wrapping up, if you could go back to the young Jules working in the factory in Germany, what would be one piece of advice you’d give him? Believe in yourself and don’t worry what other people say. Bit of a side note, what’s one thing you ask yourself before making a big decision? I ask my soul how to navigate around all that. How do you do that? Just ask.
When you know, as I said, when you know how to listen, you know the answer. And then you go in, I close my eyes and it’s just connect to my soul, you know, and everyone has a name. Everyone’s soul has a name and which is, never shared it either, but it’s interesting to me because my, when I learned how to do that from Paul Chek. What is this? don’t understand. So you sit, you can sit down and then, as I said earlier, I God is whispering and the ego is yelling.
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We also disconnected that we only hear the screaming because everything is so noisy around us. So nobody’s here right now. So when you we all had a you most likely 99.9 % of the person has a situation in your life. We were like your gut feeling, your intuition told you not to do it. You yet you still did it. So and then shit hits the fan and like shit, I shouldn’t have done that. So that’s your soul talking to you. Sometimes it’s really hard. Yeah, it is. But then now it’s almost like I don’t
necessarily go and ask any more much unless it’s something tremendous, huge. It’s a feeling. I feel it. I’m either drawn to it or not. And there’s many ways you can do that. Some people do muscle testing. There’s something like you can stand up straight. You look gently down to the floor with a straight gaze towards the ground. And then you stay straight up, your center, the weight in your center of your foot. And I learned this many
years ago and basically you ask yourself, you say it out loud or in your mind, is this my highest, is this my highest or best interest that I do X, Y and Z? Is it in my highest and best interest that I do X, Y and Z that I drive to Panger or whatever. And then if you go forward, it’s a yes, if you go backwards, a no. So I done that many times in my life beforehand. And now it’s almost like I connect to source immediately. I’m like, okay.
Am I supposed to be doing this or no? And then it’s like, it’s either yes, it’s a feeling. Yes or no. So, you know, obviously I still ask people for advice or belief, but in the end of the day, I’m making the decision for myself because it always shows me the truth. So if somebody listening is really disconnected, but wants to tap into their intuition and the source for their decision making, what
would you suggest they do? That’s difficult. What you just said, the back and forth is a little more advanced. It’s advanced, but essentially it’s really the breath that guides you home. It sounds so cliché, it so corny and too simple, but it’s the truth. If nobody’s breathing, you’ll never be in your body. If you start breathing slow and deep, your breath guides you home.
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That’s why it connects my body and spirit. So if I do breathe like this, all of a sudden you listen, you’re able to listen to the whispering. then you all, the more you listen, the more you apply it, the more you trust, the more you feel and the more you believe, and then you can change your entire life around. And it’s like, then it’s not about like, I wish I would have done that. It’s like, no, I’m listening and I’m doing it. I’m showing up for myself every day. I’d be the most...
authentic version of myself and then from that place I can change my life around within a short period of time. Trust me, I can tell you one thing, if I can do that, the background I’m coming from, growing up in Germany, my parents never had money, I was a mechanic and I flipped my entire life around, anyone can do that. And that’s also why I’m doing it because I wanna show people that it doesn’t matter where you come from, doesn’t matter how much money,
how much success you have, how much success your parents had or anything like that. Anyone, you can pave your own path and walk it, but you gotta be willing to walk it. And then the longer you walk on your own path, the more narrow it becomes. And then it’s like the navigation, there’s no navigation on its own. It’s like, this is the way. And then for example, what felt, certain things will fall off. People will fall off the path. Certain behaviors will fall off. Like what I said with eating animal products like meat.
animal flash fell off because it doesn’t serve me anymore. I don’t want to carry that backpack anymore on this in this lifetime. And then all of a sudden you walk in your truth and that’s the most authentic thing you can do. And it’s the most fulfilling thing you can do for yourself on a heart level and an emotional level. And you’ll never work a day in your life. You know, that’s really that’s the only only way. That’s how I look at it. So if this was your last recorded video ever.
all the content you’ve created has been deleted and you had 60 seconds to leave a message for the world. What would you say? I would say the kingdom of heaven is already within. You don’t have to look on the outside. Go inward. Find peace in your heart. Find love in your heart for yourself first. And only then you can touch another person’s life when you have true self-love. When you find that love, give it away.
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Find people around you who lift you higher, who really truly care for who you are. Build community, live in peace with yourself, show up for yourself every single day, no matter what. And live in your most authentic self. And then from that place, nothing is impossible. Jules Horne, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, brother. It was fun. It was fun. And if you enjoyed this episode, please go to YouTube, search that one time with Adam Atwelly, and I’ll see you next week.
